Comments on: What Do They REALLY Mean by Peace?

By: Mark L Dodds

Mark L Dodds — Sun, 02 Feb 2025 15:06:06 +0000

Recently during a love-fest in my ward’s elders’ Quorum where we were lectured about being kind and not contentious, I posed the following: should we ever contend against evil? I said that I didn’t want to be political so I suggested an example of an evil that we should all be able to agree upon, so-called transgenderism.

Remarkably, all I got in response was four or five comments that we must follow the prophets and not be contentious. When I could see it was going badly, I stood up among about 25 elders and pointedly asked if even one of them would stand up with me in support of my suggestion that we should contend against evil. Not a soul stirred. I was stunned. (Why do Sodom and Gomorrah come to mind?)

The meeting ended on a sour note, aimed at me, that my query as to whether we should contend against evil and my plea for even one person to stand with me in contending against created a spirit of contention in the meeting!

I am sorry to sound defeatist, but I feel the battle that Defending Utah is fighting is lost. Nevertheless, we continue to fight because the war will be won in the end, but don’t expect to change the mind of anyone.

And in response to my question of whether we should ever contend against evil, I refer to D & C 18:20: “Contend against no church save it be the church of the devil.”

By: Colleen

Colleen — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 11:37:19 +0000

“Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.” “Disagree Better” basically means to surrender to evil, in my opinion. Being a “peacemaker” means the same thing, to surrender in the face of evil. We are NOT being told to be “wise as serpents” and to take a stand against the evil that is attacking our families, children, the Constitution, our liberties, etc, etc. Instead we are told to be kind, be peacemakers, be “gentle as doves,” disagree better. But we are never told to take a stand against the very forces that seek our destruction. This is total Marxist strategy to guilt us into submission and unfortunately its working and people don’t see the reality of what this is really all about. Imagine if we had accepted this way of thinking during WWII. We are now living in a time where the enemy seeks our total destruction. He won’t respond to kindness, peacemaking, disagree better, etc. If we are to save our country, our families, our children, our liberties, we need to to take a stand against this, not stand down.

By: Jonathan N

Jonathan N — Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:50:12 +0000

The basic strategy, which the LDS church is signed onto, is to demonize you if you object to any of what they have planned (one world totalitarian government with total surveillance, no privacy, no private property, no families, population control, zero freedom of speech, no freedom to travel, banning meat, banning natural health and supplements, forced vaccines, etc). Eventually the Latter-day Saints will have to wake up and oppose evil rather than keep accepting it and pretending that this makes them good people due to not fighting evil which is being falsely portrayed as “contention” and “of the devil,” etc. No, sorry, not fighting evil is of the devil. Accepting evil is of the devil. Violating God’s commandments is of the devil – whether done by individuals or groups or governments. I’m thinking this will eventually cause a big division in the church between the globalist frauds and the real Saints.